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Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   04-25-06 21:07

Latino/Hispanic population of Culebra, of any race- 12.5%

Number of Households living below poverty level- 12.4%

(Hmm, is there a connection here?)


Total White population of island: 75.1%

Median Family income: $50, 046


(I wonder how that happened?)


Most popular topic of discussion amongst locals according to this board- bellyaching by expat locals about encroaching development, aka corporate America cutting into a piece of their pie.


waaa waaaa waaaa waaaa waaaa.

Sounds like karma to me, too bad it wasn't instant karma because you sure deserve it, especially based on the description of some of the s**tholes being rented for $150 a night on this island as dished out at TripAdvisor, replete with photos. Just let a big chain land on that island and some of you (not all) might actually have to raise standards and give people what you charge them for, instead of feeding your meth habit or whatever else it is you are funding.

Oh, the horror, the horror...............................

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Frank (---.gwi.net)
Date:   04-26-06 09:20

Normally a post like this doesn't deserve a response ... and I enter into the fray with eyes open knowing I'll probably regret it! <vbg>

Perhaps it's not all about "bellyaching by expat locals about encroaching development, aka corporate America cutting into a piece of their pie."

Maybe, just maybe ... it's about people trying to hold onto a very special place that has not been ruined by commercialism. Maybe it's about saving an island from development so that one can take their kids on vacation and rent a house that has no phone, tv, computer. Darn ... those kids actually learn that reading a book and playing board games is fun.

As far as folks paying too much for a "s***hole", we have always found the accomodations in Culebra to be very nice. A bit rustic? Yes! But compare prices for other islands in the Carribbean and you'll find Culebra to be a downright bargain.

As far as the "meth habit" comment ... I'll leave that one alone except to say I like my beer cold. Real cold.

In full disclosure ... I do not live on Culebra. I do not own a house on Culebra. I do not own land on Culebra. But 99% of the people I have met on Culebra ... whether they be Latino/Hispanic or White ... whether they be "Wealthy" or "Poor" ... are just plain nice and friendly.

Which is certainly is more than one could say about the person who started this post. To them, I'd say be careful with that "karma" stuff. Sounds like you may be coming back in your next lifetime as a bug on a windshield. <vbg>

Frank

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: DEBBIE DO (---.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)
Date:   04-26-06 09:30

DITTO

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Debbie (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date:   04-26-06 18:26

Wow - for someone that's never been to Culebra, you sure do think you know a lot about it.

No one I know on Culebra - Culebrense, former mainland Americans, ex-pats from outside the US, white, black, yellow or red, makes $50,000/year. If I could make that kind of money there, I would be living there. Your census "statistics" seem to imply that only white people make $50K plus, when in reality median family income refers to the the median income of ALL persons reporting to the census from Culebra. Did you ever consider that there are some very wealthy Puertoricans who might own a vacation home on Culebra, and who participated in the census from Culebra rather than their hometowns? Ever seen the yachts that pull into Culebra from the main island on the weekends? There's plenty of wealthy Puertoricans, and some of them own homes on Culebra. Oh, the horror. . .

----->"Most popular topic of discussion amongst locals according to this board- bellyaching by expat locals about encroaching development, aka corporate America cutting into a piece of their pie" <-------

What locals hang out on this board? Besides those touting their very nice "s**hole" guesthouse accomodations and jeep/scooter/boat rental businesses, I don't know of many locals that air their dirty laundry here. Mostly, it's people like me who have been there a few times and wish to share our experiences. As for development, I'd rather stay in a "s**hole" guesthouse than a large encroaching resort that doesn't fit in with the spirit of Culebra, i.e., a small town, community feel. It's kind of like WalMart moving into East Nowhere, America; actually, no different now that I think about it.

What corporate America is cutting into the piece of the pie? None of the resorts on the island are owned by corporate conglomerates from the mainland US.

As for drug use, I don't believe it's prevalent on the island; drinking, yes; hard drugs, no.

You're exactly the type of person that won't appreciate Culebra for what it is, especially if you don't give it a chance in person. My suggestion is don't bother going there, and quit stirring things up on this board for no reason.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   04-26-06 18:30

Commercialism by definition is engaging in any sort of exchange of goods or services for monetary or proprietary gain. Frank are you suggesting that the numerous guesthouses which have sprung up on the island are charitable retreats owned and hosted by non-profit organizations? If so, where may one view their charters with the Government, or their Mission statements for that matter?

If it is necessary for parents to sequester their children on an island hundreds of miles from the nearest coast of the mainland USA in order to induce in them the motivation to read a book or engage in some non-electronic entertainment, than that parent has already failed. A child should be taught to entertain him or herself from pre-school age how to engage themself without the constant use of the electronic babysitters which are the convenient fallback of parents too busy to engage themselves. Or maybe a parent who has had too many cold ones on a weekend? Frank, do you have a DVD player in your vehicle? How many TVs in your house? One in each child's bedroom?

You obviously are not particularly literate yourself, else you would have noticed that I said that some, not all, of the hoteliers and innkeepers on Culebra were gouging and taking advantage of the guests with ramshackle properties. I made no reference to luxury, but there is such a thing as fair market value, good working order, providing what is advertised, and a liveable environment. There are some lodgings and owners who fall far short of the most rudimentary of these standards, even by IYH standards. (Now go do a Google search to find out what IYH means, because I doubt you have ever stepped inside of one, let alone slept in one as an adult, as I have)

As for everyone being "nice", you must be looking at the world through those beer goggles of yours. To think that there is any place in the world where the entire population is comprised 100% of ethical, kind, totally honest people is delusional. Sociology and genetics refutes that soundly. Hmm, hasn't every serial killer been described by his unsuspecting neighors as "the nicest guy ever, so quiet and polite?" Besides, isn't it the job of the people who are making a hefty profit off of you to be nice to you? Like I said before, doesn't someone who's paying a prostitute expect her to kiss him and tell him he's handsome, endowed, and that he's the best she ever had?

Personally, ending up as a bug isn't so bad. It means contributing to the ecology, which is more than most Americans do- they just move in, take over, take out what's of value, then move on once they've wasted a place. It wasn't good enough for the ancestors of the Americans to move to North America and kick out the natives, push the Mexicans who owned half the USA into down into the crappy part of Mexico and take over the west under Manifest Destiny, and let all the latter immigrants come in and get their chance to make a good life. No, the grandchildren of these people now aren't content to live in the richest nation in the world, they have to spread out to the territories and beyond and exploit a little more, because they've screwed up what the preceding generation died to provide them.

Yeah, being a bug would be good, splat on a windshield, then a bird can eat me, and s**t on you and Debbie's heads, that would be fun!

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   04-26-06 18:39

Oh, ps, the census statistics came from this board, which have the 2000 US Census Stats. Sorry, I didn't pull them out of my ass like one of you think, imagine that, someone who actually reads and documents what they write?

I also have never been to Antarctica, but I know they have lots of ice and penguins, or do I not have any right to assert that either?

Excuse me, the nurses are telling me it's time to take my meds and put my arms in the funny jacket again......................you all go back to your mutual admiration society, and forget about the fact that what makes things better in life sometimes is the ability to scrutinize and see the ugly with the beautiful. I guess it's hard to do that when you're living in a perpetual daydream of wanting to be somewhere else and idealizing it to the point of missing what's wrong with it. Personally, I prefer to make every day of my life beautiful and count, no matter where I am, even here in my cell.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Wade (---.pressenter.com)
Date:   04-26-06 21:59

Hello,

Here is what I see in the census information. (factfinder.census.gov, then look up Culebra)


"Latino/Hispanic population of Culebra, of any race 12.5%"

It is actually 90.8%, Kathy read the census information number for the entire US population, not Culebra.


"Number of households living below poverty level 12.4%"

It is actually not in the census information, but the 12.4% is individuals living below the poverty level in the entire US population, in Culebra that number is 37%


"Total white population of island 75.1%"

This is again the number for the entire US population, not Culebra.


"Median family income $50,046"

Again, this is the average for the entire US population. Culebra is at $22,600.


Kind of funny that you said "You obviously are not particularly literate yourself" to Frank, when you read a chart on a government web site incorrectly.

For the most part, expats living on the island don't go on this board. They are usually expats because they wanted to get away from this kind of nonsense.

You mentioned that most Americans just move in, take over, take out what's of value, then move on once they've wasted a place. This is what most people on this board, and most people on the island, are wanting to stop. And in your first post you suggested that a big chain would raise the standards on the island.


You mentioned some lodgings and owners fall short on "Fair market value" and here is the definition:

The price that an interested but not desperate buyer would be willing to pay and an interested but not desperate seller would be willing to accept on the open market assuming a reasonable period of time for an agreement to arise.

So if they are being rented regularly, they must be reasonably close to the "Fair market value". You might not get what you assumed you would get for the money. Just do your homework and you shouldn't be dissapointed.



Just my two cents,

Wade

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Frank (---.gwi.net)
Date:   04-27-06 09:47

Wow. Looks like we touched a nerve. As I said in my first post, I just knew I was going to regret it. <vbg>

Considering you misread the census information, perhaps we should cut you some slack. Your credibility isn't much right now ... and it's pretty obvious that you have an agenda to which you will bend the facts to support your viewpoint. No big deal ... everybody has a viewpoint ... though not everybody is as transparent.

My boys (ages 10-15) got a great chuckle from your comments about their "downtime" in Culebra. Since we have ONE computer in the house (in an open area) which they are allowed to use one hour per week for non-school related activities. We have ONE TV in the house, again with a one-hour limit per week. No X-Box. No Play-Station. None of those blasted hand-held games that I don't even know the name of. And a car with a radio. Yee-hah, no DVD. My wife and I happen to think that too many kids get "plugged in" and that it is indeed a shame. Perhaps, at last, something we can agree upon.

As far as literacy goes, I won't engage in a debate on what that entails. Suffice it to say I am comfortable with my level of literacy. Both with words and with numbers.

A "shout-out" to Wade for providing the correct Culebra census numbers. I must confess that when I saw 12% Hispanic in the first post I was a little bewildered ... but the 90% makes much more sense. As does the higher rate of poverty than our friend Kathy originally proposed.

Although my beer goggles are a bit old, I did find them in the closet last night and they still fit. Culebra is far from perfect, and a great many people there have problems both of their own making as well as those forced upon them. I do, however, stand by my comment that 99% of the people I have met on Culebra are nice and friendly. Hey, it's my experience ... nothing more, nothing less.

It reminds me of the old story: A man sat on the side of the road between a town in the mountains and a town next to the sea. A traveler came along from the mountains and stopped to talk. "I am moving to the town next to the sea." said the traveler, "Do you know what the people are like?" The man pondered for a moment and asked the traveler, "How did you find the people in the mountain town?" The traveler spat on the grouund and answered "Terrible. Mean-spirited. Dishonest. Petty." The man pointed to the sea and said "Yup, that's exactly what they are like in the next town." The traveler shook his head and headed on his way. After a short time, another traveler came walking down the road from the mountains and also stopped to talk. "I am moving to the town next to the sea." said the second traveler, "Do you know what the people are like?" The man pondered for a moment and asked the second traveler, "How did you find the people in the mountain town?" The traveler smiled and answered "Wonderful. Kind-Hearted. Generous. Fun." The man on the side of the road pointed to the sea and said "Yup, that's exactly what you will find in the next town."

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Peter Bowden (---.alb.choiceone.net)
Date:   04-27-06 15:32

Yes, Kathy...meds are your answer.

PSYCHO!!!!

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   04-27-06 19:26

Wade, thank you for pointing out my error. I thought the column for US was to indicate which percentile of the population were US citizens. At first I was rather perplexed to see what a low percentile was living below the poverty level, because I would have thought there would be a higher poverty level as well as a higher Latino population. I thought that maybe most of the natives had been driven from the island because the cost of maintaining a homestead had exceeded their ability to maintain it based on increased property taxes combined with low income. It's happened all over the Caribbean, it happened on Hilton Head Island and Kiawah island, Key West (a fishing community without a single fishing boat left) and generations of native families are displaced. When that happens, a cultural genocide occurs.


I will be the first one to admit that my initial post was very antagonistic, but that's to get people to think about the impact of what's going on around them. I have done a lot of research on these two Spanish Virgins because my brother wanted to go to Culebra while I preferred to merely visit Vieques, and the more I read, the stronger I felt in my inclination. People running businesses on Culebra have declined having their real name or full name to be used in published articles because they say they are "dropping out", but dropping out can also be trying to drop off the radar.


I think it's hilarous that Frank thinks I have an agenda. What, do you think I work for a hotel chain? Hardly. I just think it's laughable when people get irritated when someone else finds out about something that they are making money off of and moves in on it. I grew up in a coastal area, and we locals have never encouraged people to come here. The people with the small hotels, the businesses, they all wanted it because they wanted the money, but the locals, we hate it when the summer people come and always have hated it. We don't make money off of them, and support ourselves elsewhere. Tourism is not profitable for anyone but the owners and the large corporations who eventually pick up the scent of money near a beach, and plop down a hotel. I don't know a single person who ever made a liveable wage working "over on the beach."


There is also a very negative environmental impact in areas which burgeon into resorts because they seldom have the infrastructure to support the rush of visitors, and in the end everyone gets screwed. The water and land suffers, the locals get taxed to improve everything, and really only the tourists benefit once a big hotel moves in. That's because the local places which keep a stranglehold on prices and low standards have to deal with the bar being raised.


I did find a couple of places on Culebra with glowing reviews on and off this board, and not just because of the owner being "nice." One place in particular stands out. There are ethics and civic minded activities attached to this individual as well. Some people complained about the place, but some people want a Ritz Carlton. Even so, the rate there for one particular room had a 65% increase between December 2002 and December 2005. Now, with the rate of inflation and other variables put in, that is still excessive. Maybe some levy occured in the municipality that I am unaware of- can anyone here give me a single compelling motivation for that increase other than the rationale of "I'm charging it because I can get it," honestly?

Americans used to be able to be objective and look at two sides of an issue without being offended. What's interesting to note is that in my initial post I made no exact reference to any individual or property, but left it up to the consumer to investigate to determine which properties are not living up to what they advertise. In my first post, I made no personal attack on anyone, but the natural response to my criticism and incorrect quote from the census page has been to attack me personally.

So, I climbed into the ring with Frank and Debbie and took a few swings once they threw the first punches, but how else do you get people to think about things? I would never have written my original post if I did not keep reading and re-reading the visitor's posts about dinnertime conversation on the island being a constant litany of island ex-pats complaining about encroaching development. I'm sorry, they have only themselves to blame. Personally, if I had a special secret place, I'd keep it to myself, I wouldn't build a house there and then advertise it to the whole world just to get someone else to pick up the tab for my mortgage and/or to finance my ability to live there all year without working while I rent half of the place out as a guest lodging. It's like the guy who finds a treasure and then tells just one person and says to keep it a secret- before you know it the news is out all over town, and his treasure has been raided. And who do you think is going to suffer the most from all of this? Uh, the natives. Don't believe me? Go ask that guy Abe doing kayak tours on Vieques- according to him, he had to move there from St. Croix because encroaching development forced him off his native island- he says his former home is now an estate.

Just another day in paradise.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Arroz (---.direcpc.com)
Date:   04-27-06 19:34

Well, if Frank can enter the fray knowing that he will regret it and Wade has the energy to actually look at the Census stats, the least I can do is look at the TripAdvisor site to see the,
_________
description of some of the s**tholes being rented for $150 a night on this island as dished out at TripAdvisor, replete with photos.
_________

I found two hotels reviewed the Culebra Beach Villas (listed in two places) and the Costa Bonita (didn't seen any photos). Mamacita's was mentioned under B&B but there was no review.

Culebra Beach Villas had 16 comments which were mixed - depending on which room a person was in. The average rating was 3 stars out of 5. The Costa Bonita had two reviews with an average rating of 3.5/5.

So, like the other posters, I could find no evidence to support Ms. Niclaus's comments about accomodations on the island.

I suspect that what we have here is a classic troll (not the kind which lives under the bridge)

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   04-27-06 19:59

You know Abe, you're really kind of lacking in an understand of net nomenclature.

First off, a real internet troll does not use their real name, duh. Secondly, they make outrageous inflammatory remarks not at all grounded in any kind of truth, insult people in the worst sort of way, and keep reinventing themself. Thirdly, calling me names is not going to hurt my feelngs, and only shows how difficult it is for you to really process anything of any sort of rational discourse, because you have to knee jerk your reply without really fully investigating it- i admitted my error publically, will you?

If anyone is being troll like here it is you, because you just defeated the purpose of my discretion by using the names of the properties. You omitted the worst offender is on one of the travel pages showing photos of plywood A frame like shacks over dirty kitchens populated with Katydids and other bugs, and for cryin' out loud, mismatched old PVC chairs? Can't people who have been in the business for that many years do better than that? To add insult to injury, they added extra costs onto a family's lodging fee after charging them cash, were rude, and a host of other trangressions. You call that hospitality? Being nice and friendly?

You all want this island and everything on it to be your Shangri-La, your holy cow, and can't brook any criticism of it. Don't bother reading FWS or NOAA reports on the island or the damage that all you people are doing to the reefs there either, because they are so unregulated for recreation. People, coral, fish, whatever, as long as you get your kicks, who cares who or what gets hurt, right?

I don't have time for this or people like you now, my vacation starts tomorrow. I'm sure you and your friends would love to show up and protest my arrival in Puerto Rico, but you're not considered that important there to stop me from going. Not that I wouldn't relish the thought of bitch slapping you mentally in person...................buh-bye!

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Frank (---.agstme.adelphia.net)
Date:   04-27-06 20:52

(sigh)

Kathy, why don't you post a trip report after you've actually set foot on the island. I sincerely hope you go with an open mind. Most of your pre-conceived notions are very misguided.

Perhaps if you visit and spend some real time on Culebra, you'll understand. There are so many people on Culebra that care about the island (as well as the world around them) and will do anything to protect it ... not because they want to keep the "goldmine" to themselves. Quite frankly, as the saying kind of goes: "there ain't much gold in them thar hills."

Your original supposition involving the Census was faulty. You thanked Wade for pointing it out. Most of your other suppositions are flawed too. But a message board like this isn't going to change your mind. Only your own personal experience can do that.

Please travel safely...

Frank

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   04-27-06 21:09

Hey, I retract my closing remark to Abe Ross- he's a stand up guy, and I'd relish shaking his hand or buying him the beverage of his choice any day, for real.

Sorry Abe!

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Gary Eichelberger (204.248.83.---)
Date:   04-28-06 17:14

*Personally, I prefer to make every day of my life beautiful and count, no matter where I am, even here in my cell.*

lady there ain;t nothing beautiful about you, your life, or the crap you are spewing here under the premise of psedo-intellectualism -- in fact, these are some of the dumbest comments I have ever read anywhere.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Doug (---.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net)
Date:   04-28-06 17:44

Personally, I think the rest of us are better off if this expert continues her analysis from gathering statistics on the web rather than first hand. Would you really be able to enjoy your Presidente at the Dinghy if she was sitting next to you being informative?

You are correct, Kathy. Culebra, the guest houses, the gringos, all suck. The only place where a guy can get an even break is Cancun.

Doug

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Debbie (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date:   04-28-06 23:11

----------->"Don't bother reading FWS or NOAA reports on the island or the damage that all you people are doing to the reefs there either, because they are so unregulated for recreation. People, coral, fish, whatever, as long as you get your kicks, who cares who or what gets hurt, right."<-------------

One of the reasons we love diving there so much is because the reefs are in much better shape and more incredibly healthy than anywhere we've dived, including Belize, Bonaire, Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Hawaii, Honduras, South Florida and the Keys, Gulf Coast of Florida, North Carolina and the Gulf of Mexico. I have done 1/3 of my lifetime dives off of Culebra, all in the last six years. There's something to be said for that. I have the means to dive elsewhere, yet I continue to return to Culebra. Why? Because the reefs are incredibly healthy. Why? Because very few people dive there, thus preserving the reefs. But you wouldn't know this as a fact because you've never been there.

The worst offender of damage to coral reefs in Culebra - high water temperatures that cause coral bleaching, resulting in die-offs of massive amounts of hard corals. Perhaps you would like to familiarize yourself withhttp://coralations.org/, so that you can see that the people on Culebra are trying to do some good. Along with the FWS and DNR in Culebra, there is certainly environmental awareness.

------->"I don't know a single person who ever made a liveable wage working "over on the beach."<--------------

Consider the fact that Puertoricans and gringos alike who have the privilege to live on this paradise have taken the time, and gone to the trouble and expense to build a guesthouse on their property or give up a room in their house to host strangers. The fact that they are making a liveable wage by opening their homes to strangers is a problem for you? Why? I doubt any person on Culebra renting their guestrooms/guesthouses are making anything more than $25K annually. The "season" is just not that long, and you can't count on renting out anymore than about 20 weeks a year. At $100/night, that's about $14K a year. Poverty level, as you so aptly pointed out.

Enjoy your PR vacation. Perhaps stepping foot on the soil will actually educate you. Meanwhile, pardon me while I perpetually daydream of wanting to be somewhere else.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: serafinapup (---.dhcp4.washington.edu)
Date:   05-03-06 14:20

Kathy,
You can't possibly be for real. You try to put on this holier-than-though air and yet you keep changing your arguments and contradicting yourself. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't judge the island, the people who live there, the business owners, parents in general who let their kids watch TV, and everyone else you've shallowly insulted in your posts! Grow up! Regarding prices for accomodations going up: Did you ever consider that perhaps a drastic rise in price is due to renovating, remodeling, adding new services, etc, in order to upgrade a "s**thole as you call it? Don't be so quick to judge and only do so if you actually know what you're talking about...

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Kathy Niclaus (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date:   05-26-06 15:04

I got back 9 days ago, and even though I was invited to comment objectively on what I experienced, meaning the tragic, the excellent, the so-so, and the cliche' what's the point? Most of you want someone who preaches to the choir. Objectivity is hardly what this forum is about, that's why you spend your time year round writing about a place where you spend a fraction of a year. (maybe an indication you need to get a life?)


Keep your perceived Shangri-La and I'll be happy knowing that you are all diving and snorkeling the same reefs over and over again on Culebra, and I won't run into you anywhere else on the globe.

Oh, by the way, Vieques is much better- and it's much more real.

That's it for now, I won't be back to post or to read. It's summer here and I have much better things to do with my time, like surf in water, not the net.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: ginayac (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date:   05-26-06 16:32

Just in case you do come back to read, even if it is secretly....I would like to know what you thought and to see if you changed your mind.
I read your comment about Vieques but I would still like to know.
I guess you can say I was waiting for it because of all the built up drama that had gone on.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Frank (---.agstme.adelphia.net)
Date:   05-27-06 06:48

"Oh, by the way, Vieques is much better- and it's much more real."

Are the people on Vieques in 3-D and color? Or just seen in a two-dimensional and fuzzy gray monochrome way like on Culebra?

I hear they'll be selling glasses to correct the problem in Butiki very soon.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Glenn (---.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)
Date:   05-27-06 11:06

Poor Kathy................life must be a little difficult after she became a brain donor.

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: MJ (---.prtc.net)
Date:   05-28-06 08:01

This is the funniest thread I've seen here (but I haven't looked for a long time - meth heads are like that).
As one reply mentioned...I think Kathy has it all down pat (not ex-pat however). Culebra is a terrible place, full of bugs, rich lazy sorts exploiting everything we touch, including the reefs. Nothing makes a better day for me than heading out to the water after gouging a few visitors and wrecking a few corals, then coming home to a nasty little living space that I only WISH I could make more money from, to complain endlessly about how rotten everything is. Boy, do I sleep well after a fine day like that! The best part is, I can wake up and do it all again tomorrow!! Life is great!

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Re: Census
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Michael (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date:   05-28-06 14:45

MJ - I envy your life. One of these days you have to show me how to live in a similar fashion!

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